Edward Wickham, interprete de la musique ancienne et la musique baroque, discographie
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I think the next point I wanted to raise probably leads on from that. One of the features that has been particularly praised about the Ockeghem series is that rather unusually you haven’t concentrated purely on sonorities, but have achieved a textural clarity unusual for this music. Has this been achieved simply by being technically on top of the music, or because the text carries importance for you?

Well, going back a bit, musicologists have often described Ockeghem’s music as being seamless, otherworldly—phrases like this—and although in certain circumstances I think they’re correct, I think also that Ockeghem’s music is rhetorical; there are obvious paragraphing moments in his music. Even in a mass like the Missa Mi-mi which is considered to be the most seamless, it seems to me that there are obvious moments where the declamation of the words is paramount. One such moment that springs to mind immediately is at the beginning of the Gloria, where after the opening point we have a setting of “Laudamus te,” with everyone in homophony and exactly the same rhythm. It’s immediately a very dramatic rhetorical moment at which text declamation is very important, so Ockeghem is certainly not a composer of simply pure, abstract music.

“The way people should approach Ockeghem—and the Missa prolationum is as good a place to start as any—is to forget about the canons, forget about the cleverness. Sit back and just enjoy the sonority. Having started to appreciate the eccentric and beautiful ways in which Ockeghem’s music moves, then an understanding of the technical aspects of the music, fills out one’s appreciation of it. But it doesn’t create it”.

I think what I’m also getting at here is a more personal question. You are the son of a clergyman, so do you personally approach this music from a spiritual angle? I know there are a lot of early music performers who perform sacred works who don’t. Does it have importance for you?

No, it doesn’t. In fact, if you were to accompany me to church on a Sunday morning, you’d find me probably going to a church that doesn’t have music. That’s not my primary concern. Having said that, I’m a practising Christian so I sympathise with the spirit of devotional texts.

But surely that must make some difference to your interpretation, to the way you approach the music?

Um...possibly, but only on a fairly superficial level—for instance, the joy of an Hosanna would I suppose inspire me, and I suppose if I have an understanding of a piece of text and an understanding.... Actually, having said that, there is one moment that springs to mind where a devotional approach works. At the end of Obrecht’s six-part Salve Regina there’s a rather unusual setting of “O pia.” One would normally hear “O dulcis, O piA.” To translate “pia” as “pious” is to introduce connotations today of a kind of soupy naïvety. It’s one of the words that has changed meaning since medieval days. “Pia” or “pietas” in a medieval context is a very forceful sentiment, and so I suppose an understanding of that and the devotional implications change one’s interpretation. But I think it’s quite rare; my concerns when I approach the music are more to do with the interaction between the abstract and the music and very much the textural base of the music. I think that’s a fascinating confluence that happens in Ockeghem’s music.

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